{"id":1075,"date":"2015-04-13T20:07:32","date_gmt":"2015-04-14T01:07:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pages.stolaf.edu\/americanmusic\/?p=1075"},"modified":"2015-04-13T20:07:32","modified_gmt":"2015-04-14T01:07:32","slug":"note-for-note-indian-fincks-claim-on-edward-macdowells-indian-suite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pages.stolaf.edu\/americanmusic\/2015\/04\/13\/note-for-note-indian-fincks-claim-on-edward-macdowells-indian-suite\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Note for Note Indian&#8221;: Finck&#8217;s claim on Edward MacDowell&#8217;s &#8220;Indian Suite&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Henry T. Finck wrote in <i>Century Illustrated Magazine <\/i>about Edward MacDowell\u2019s success in creating an American sound that is a \u201cmixture of all that is best in European types, transformed by our climate into something resembling the spirit of American literature.\u201d In fact Edward MacDowell has become well known as the writer of the <i>10 Woodland Sketches, <\/i>including tunes such as \u201cTo a Wild Rose.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"584\" height=\"329\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ax_l_yELCoE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Finck was specifically speaking of MacDowell\u2019s <i>Second Suite <\/i>commonly known as the <i>Indian Suite. <\/i>As Finck points out, \u201cthe introduction has almost a Wagner touch thematically, but it is note for note Indian.\u201d However, when have you listened to any type of Native American music and thought it sounded like Wagner? Even though MacDowell\u2019s piece sounds western to our ears, MacDowell was trying to create a savage piece. However, The fact of the matter is that Edward MacDowell used the transcriptions of Native American by Theodore Baker entitled <i>On the Music of the North American Indians. <\/i>These tunes have been written down on a western staff using western notational conventions. As you may know, Western staff notation can only speak in notes and rhythms but fails to represent all the subtle dips and bends in pitch.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I would agree that Edward MacDowell\u2019s Indian Suite is a note-for-note representation of Theodore Baker\u2019s transcription, but I believe that it cannot be considered note-for-note Native American. Native American music\u2019s style is so distinctive from Western style that I think it is impossible from western music to properly represent all the Native American music has to offer.<\/p>\n<p>All Quotations from:<\/p>\n<p>Finck, Henry T. &#8220;AN AMERICAN COMPOSER: EDWARD A. MACDOWELL.&#8221; <i>Century Illustrated Magazine (1881-1906)<\/i> LIII, no. 3 (01, 1897): 448. http:\/\/search.proquest.com\/docview\/125517908?accountid=351.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Henry T. 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